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Post by Rikki on Jun 11, 2018 22:46:41 GMT -2
I agree with this tweet 100%, and so does Rob. I really love that he ships Joavin so much as well.   Why I don't ship Kevin and Moose: - First off, Moose had a girlfriend, and her name was Midge. So, when Midge was alive, Moose repeatedly cheated on her with Kevin. He told Kevin that he was up for getting laid and anything with him, while he had no issue cheating on Midge, though he refused to kiss him. He wouldn't ever legitimately have a relationship with Kevin during Midge's existence. So, basically, he was giving Kevin hope and then ditching him. At one point, Moose even lied to Kevin that Midge knew all about the two of them and was fine with it, when Midge actually knew nothing about it. Kevin later realized that Moose had lied to him, and of course this brought him down. Also, Midge wanted to help Kevin find a man, but after a while, Kevin inexplicably became interested in Moose again, even when Moose and Midge were still together and he was totally aware of it. During the scene in which they were backstage singing "A Night We'll Never Forget" while preparing for Riverdale High School's opening night of Carrie: The Musical, Moose even said directly to Kevin, "Damn, we better get laid," right in front of Midge, much to her dismay. That presumably caused Midge to become suspicious that Moose was lying to her and cheating on her with Kevin, and decide to look for some fun of her own, which possibly explains why Fangs secretly had a fling with Midge in her dressing room. Then Moose even had the audacity to get pissed off when he caught Midge cheating on him with Fangs. All of that happened just before Midge got murdered by the Black Hood on stage during the show. Now that Midge is dead, Moose has been so heartbroken over her, and it seems as if Kevin is just a rebound for him. And, I honestly got the impression that, during the kiss in the men's restroom, Kevin was thinking to himself, "Yay... I can bang Moose now! Thanks Midge for getting killed so conveniently!" Midge deserved so much better, and Kevin deserves a proper love interest.
- Also, late in Season 2, it seemed as if Moose was bringing out the worst in Kevin. They bonded over their hatred for the Southside, and they were involved in the "Dark Circle" gang together. They took part in targeting the Serpents and vandalizing the Southside, and they got away with it, as they were fully convinced that Fangs was the one who killed Midge, even though exactly NONE of the Serpents had anything to do with Midge's murder. Kevin was totally out of character in this case. This was awful.
Why I don't ship Kevin with Fangs: - Firstly, Kevin judged Fangs by his name and said that he won't date him because of it. Yet, he wants dick from a guy named Moose, and he also had been interested in a guy named Chic ("chick" = baby bird).
- Secondly, after randomly hiring Fangs to be his co-director for Carrie: The Musical, Kevin went on to ignore Fangs and not listen to anything he wanted to say, and later he got annoyed that Fangs was giving his attention to someone else.
- Lastly, Kevin fully believed that Fangs was the one who killed Midge, and he totally sided with Moose and joined him and some other Bulldogs (Riverdale High's football team) in the "Dark Circle" led by Reggie, and they went on to take revenge on the Southside.
- Side Note: Fangs deserves better, and I rather ship him with Sweet Pea than Kevin. I like the relationship between Fangs and Sweet Pea better. #Swangs
Why I ship Kevin and Joaquin: - Joaquin was exactly what Kevin wanted: a non-closeted boyfriend who's so sweet, caring, loving, proud to be seen with him by everyone, and always willing to be romantic and affectionate with him in public. He gave Kevin so much love and made him so happy, and he talked about Kevin all the time with his good friend Fangs (Fangs even told Kevin this). He was also willing to help Kevin's friends.
- I love how Kevin and Joaquin were romantic, affectionate and sexual with each other, and also protective of each other.
- Yes, Joaquin truly was in love with Kevin and cared about him, despite that he had to do what his gang leader/boss FP ordered him to do when FP needed help. He didn't even care that he was letting FP down by being affectionate and sexual with Kevin, and he was even brave enough to stand up for Kevin against FP. I think this is definitely something that proves how much Joaquin loved and cared for Kevin.
- Rob Raco said this about his character Joaquin, "For as dangerous as his life can be, I think he's a lot more sensitive than he seems. In my eyes, Kevin is his hopeful light that proves that love can exist in his darker world."
- Rob also has mentioned several times that Joaquin would fight for Kevin. He even said this, "Joaquin is a pretty powerful snake, and I think a snakebite could kill a Moose."
- Joavin has been the best Kevin ship and the only valid Kevin ship, and I really want this back. I really hope they do bring Joaquin back for Season 3; I strongly feel that he deserves a second chance with his hopeful light.
- Side Note: That whole Jason Blossom situation wasn't really Joaquin's fault, FP dragged him into the cover-up and that's all. Though, the only purpose of the cover-up was to save Jughead from Clifford Blossom who threatened to kill Jughead the same way he did to his own son Jason, if FP exposed the truth about Jason's murder or ordered Joaquin to do so. And, FP played a bigger part in the cover-up than Joaquin did.
Side note: I'm really glad that Kevin and Chic never became a thing, and it's thanks to Betty. But again, I also hate Kevin and Moose together. |
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Post by Rikki on Jun 17, 2018 1:23:24 GMT -2
Midge Klump deserved better.
Kevin needs to realize all the mistakes he's made and redeem himself.
Joaquin needs more character development and to be relevant to an episode.
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Post by Rikki on Jul 2, 2018 16:07:44 GMT -2
Currently I like Joaquin even more than I like Kevin, to be honest. I still ship Joavin so hard though.
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Post by Rikki on Jul 2, 2018 16:16:17 GMT -2
Joaquin has to be in Season 3. What was the point of bringing him back for only one scene just before the end of Season 2? This is the only scene with Joaquin in Season 2:        Before the end of Season 2, Joaquin returned to town to rescue Fangs from the Northsiders wrongly accusing him of Midge's murder, and take him to San Junipero. However, as soon as Fangs got out of jail, all of a sudden he got shot in the stomach by Midge's mom (she mistakenly thought Fangs was the one who killed her daughter), and he was taken to the hospital. Fangs survived the gunshot wound and has been recovering well. Fangs is still in town, though Joaquin's whereabouts are currently unknown. Somebody came up with these theories while considering the fact that FP said that some of the Serpents joined the Ghoulies and some of them went to jail: - Since FP apparently trusts Joaquin with the most important stuff, maybe he sent Joaquin to join the Ghoulies just to spy on them.
- Archie got arrested at the end of Season 2 (Hiram Lodge framed him for murder). So, maybe Archie and Joaquin meet up and become buddies in prison, and later get bailed out or escape at the same time, in Season 3.
I'm still annoyed that the writers didn't even make Kevin and Joaquin see each other, after Fangs told Kevin that Joaquin talked about him all the time. Moose isn't right for Kevin; Kevin deserves better than Moose. Joaquin was a better boyfriend, and I really hope he and Kevin meet each other again and somehow rekindle their relationship in Season 3. It made me very happy when Rob Raco, the actor who plays Joaquin, stated this, "Joaquin is a pretty powerful snake, and a snakebite could kill a Moose.", when a girl asked him about Kevin and Joaquin in Season 3. http://instagr.am/p/BmMKNY8gx-8 Maybe this is a hint that Joaquin attends Riverdale High in Season 3. (Also, Rob mentioned that Joaquin is in 12th grade.)  |
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Post by Rikki on Jul 2, 2018 19:44:28 GMT -2
I'm taking this as another sign that Joaquin will be in Season 3. I'm sure he wouldn't comment if he wouldn't be back. And, I know he said the same thing on one of his Instalives just before Joaquin returned late in Season 2.
Joaquin going practically naked and sunbathing would definitely get me so hot and bothered.
Though I think this would be even better: Joaquin and Kevin making love on their beach getaway in San Junipero. I'm envisioning this to be similar to the core four's storyline in Episode 2x14 ("Chapter Twenty-Seven: The Hills Have Eyes").
And, this inspired me to create this aesthetic - "Joavin's Romantic Beach Vacation In San Junipero"
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Post by Rikki on Jul 3, 2018 6:01:34 GMT -2
I feel like Rob has been signaling that he'll be in the third season of Riverdale. Also, he's been putting likes on a lot of the Season 3 stuff on Instagram and Twitter.  |
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Post by Rikki on Jul 16, 2018 2:15:20 GMT -2
They started filming Season 3 last week. Rob posted this pic of himself in a grooming trailer on his Instagram story just a couple of days ago; he placed his "Joaquin" emoji on it. This must be a good sign! He always used this emoji 💁🏻 in his Joaquin tweets and posts before, and now he's started using it again.  |
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Post by Rikki on Jul 21, 2018 23:13:29 GMT -2
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Post by Rikki on Jul 27, 2018 22:20:36 GMT -2
A very recent photo of Rob donning the Joaquin look:  And, that photo was taken by the same photographer who took this Season 1 Joaquin portrait:  Rob is now officially back in Vancouver! Where Riverdale is being filmed. http://instagr.am/p/Bllk-0KAEKN |
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Post by Rikki on Aug 3, 2018 6:27:56 GMT -2
Rob is so awesome!   |
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Post by Rikki on Aug 3, 2018 6:50:31 GMT -2
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Post by Rikki on Aug 3, 2018 21:40:33 GMT -2
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Post by Rikki on Aug 3, 2018 22:07:27 GMT -2
I found these on Instagram: I agree with this 100% !
This is totally accurate! lol
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Post by Rikki on Aug 4, 2018 1:49:58 GMT -2
MY PERSONAL RANKINGS FOR KEVIN KELLER'S LOVE INTERESTS1) Joaquin DeSantos- Joaquin, an openly gay biker from the Southside (Southside Serpent), was exactly what Kevin wanted: a boyfriend who's so sweet, caring, loving, proud to be seen with him by everyone, and always willing to be romantic and affectionate with him in public. He gave Kevin so much love and made him so happy, and he talked about Kevin all the time whenever he hung out with his friend Fangs (Fangs told Kevin this in Episode 2x10). He was also willing to help Kevin's friends.
- Yes, Joaquin truly was in love with Kevin and cared about him, despite that he had to do what his gang leader/boss FP ordered him to do when FP needed help. He didn't even care that he was letting FP down by being affectionate and sexual with Kevin, and he was even brave enough to stand up for Kevin against FP. I think this is definitely something that proves how much Joaquin loved and cared for Kevin.
- Rob Raco said this about his character Joaquin, "For as dangerous as his life can be, I think he's a lot more sensitive than he seems. In my eyes, Kevin is his hopeful light that proves that love can exist in his darker world."
- Rob also has mentioned several times that Joaquin would fight for Kevin. He even said this, "Joaquin is a pretty powerful snake, and I think a snakebite could kill a Moose."
- So, Joaquin has been the best love interest Kevin has ever had. And, it's no surprise that so many people including myself want Joaquin back and want Joavin to rise again.
2) Random Guy Jogging In The Woods- In the opening scene of Episode 2x03, Kevin was cruising in Fox Forest at night, and he made out with another guy who was jogging there, until they heard gunshots being fired. But, we don't know anything else about this jogger because we've never seen him again.
3) Chic- Chic was an online gigolo (as Kevin called him) who posed as different people online and also claimed to be Betty's brother. He and Kevin met online and chatted with each other via webcam several times. They were interested in each other, but that was inappropriate, since Chic's in his twenties, and Kevin is an underage teen.
- Their third and fourth time chatting was when Betty was catfishing Chic, due to Betty growing even more suspicious of Chic's strange behavior and wanting to find out what Chic was hiding. Chic would just get defensive or play the victim whenever Betty tried to ask him questions about himself, so catfishing him with Kevin's help was the only way she could think of to get Chic to open up about himself.
- A couple of days after Betty's catfishing scheme, Chic invited Kevin over to the Cooper house and the two were flirting. Then, as soon as Betty arrived home and stumbled upon Kevin and Chic in the kitchen, Chic told her that he and Kevin had continued their online chats, and Kevin told Chic about the catfishing scheme. And then, Betty got upset over Kevin's betrayal and asked him to leave, and she demanded Chic to leave her friends alone. We didn't see any more interaction between Kevin and Chic after this.
- Side Note: In Episode 2x19, it turned out that Chic was actually impersonating Betty's real brother, and a horrid secret about Chic and Betty's real brother got revealed, and this led to a violent showdown between Chic, Jughead, Betty and Alice. Later in this episode, Betty handed Chic over to the Black Hood, a black hooded serial killer who was targeting people who committed a sin. Chic was running away from the Black Hood, and the Black Hood was chasing him. Though, Chic's fate is unknown at this point.
4) Moose Mason- Moose, a closeted bi football player (Riverdale Bulldog), repeatedly cheated on his girlfriend Midge with Kevin. He told Kevin that he was up for getting laid and anything with him, while he had no issue cheating on Midge, though he refused to kiss him. (Though he had no issue making out with Cheryl at Jughead's birthday party, and of course this was another time he cheated on Midge.) He wouldn't ever legitimately have a relationship with Kevin during Midge's existence. So, basically, he was giving Kevin hope and then ditching him.
- Moose even lied to Kevin that Midge knew all about the two of them and was fine with it, when Midge actually knew nothing about it. Kevin later realized that Moose had lied to him, and of course this brought him down.
- In the "Carrie: The Musical" episode: Moose even said directly to Kevin, "Damn, we better get laid," right in front of Midge, during the song sequence "A Night We'll Never Forget." This presumably caused Midge to become suspicious that Moose was lying to her and cheating on her with Kevin, and decide to look for some fun of her own, which possibly explains why Fangs secretly had a fling with Midge. Then Moose even had the audacity to get pissed off when he caught Midge cheating on him with Fangs. All of this happened just before Midge got murdered by the Black Hood on stage during the show.
- Late in Season 2, it seemed as if Moose was bringing out the worst in Kevin. They bonded over their hatred for the Southside, and they were involved in the "Dark Circle" gang together. They took part in targeting the Serpents and vandalizing the Southside, and they got away with it, as they were fully convinced that Fangs was the one who killed Midge, even though exactly NONE of the Serpents had anything to do with Midge's murder. Kevin was totally out of character in this case.
- In the finale of Season 2, the kiss in the men's restroom was when Moose was mourning the loss of Midge. He might later play this off and ignore it ever happened. It seems as if Kevin is just a rebound for him.
- This is what Casey Cott has revealed so far about Kevin's storyline in Season 3: Kevin and Moose are together, but their relationship gets complicated. Moose is still closeted. Kevin tries to push Moose out of the closet, but Moose is too ashamed to be seen with Kevin in public, and he's unwilling to give Kevin what he wants.
Additionally: They teased a potential romance between Kevin and Fangs Fogarty (another Southside Serpent), then it turned out that there wasn't a lot of interaction between these two and they didn't become a thing.- Episode 2x10: During their first interaction in the student lounge at Riverdale High, Kevin asked Fangs what his name is, then Fangs introduced himself to Kevin, then Fangs asked Kevin if his last name is Keller, then Kevin asked Fangs how did he know it, and then Fangs answered, "Joaquin and I used to hang out. He talked about you all the time."
- Episode 2x14: Kevin said that he doesn't think he can date someone named Fangs.
- Episode 2x18: Kevin hired Fangs to be his assistant director for Carrie: The Musical, but then he went on to ignore Fangs and not listen to anything he wanted to say, and later he got annoyed that Fangs was giving his attention to someone else.
- Episode 2x20: After Midge got murdered by the Black Hood on stage during the musical, and a footage of Fangs with Midge in her dressing room got leaked, as well as when a knife fell out of Fangs's pocket while he was getting arrested......Kevin became fully convinced that Fangs was the one who killed Midge, and he totally sided with Moose and joined him and some other Bulldogs, Riverdale High School's football team, in the "Dark Circle" led by Reggie, and they went on to take revenge on the Southside. (Fangs didn't kill Midge, and exactly NONE of the Serpents had anything to do with Midge's murder. Also, the late Mr. Svenson, who was a janitor at Riverdale High, wasn't the Black Hood. Hal Cooper, who is Betty's dad, was the actual Black Hood.)
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Post by Rikki on Aug 5, 2018 23:38:29 GMT -2
I love this excerpt from Rob Raco's recent interview with Boys By Girls Magazine:
It really has warmed my heart when he talked about this special connection he and Casey Cott had while filming the Joavin scenes in Season 1: "For me, it was actually more fun - it was something I had never done. I think it came out more authentic than half the love scenes I've ever filmed in my life. There were some looks between Casey and I - I just remember a moment thinking; "I love this kid who is in front of me." It doesn't mean I'm in love, it doesn't mean I'm sexually attracted - it means I love this connection."
Full interview: www.boysbygirls.co.uk/index.php/news/bbg-presents-rob-raco
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Post by Rikki on Aug 6, 2018 1:35:22 GMT -2
At this year's SDCC, Casey Cott confirmed this about Kevin in Season 3: Kevin and Moose are together, but their relationship gets complicated. Moose wants to stay in the closet, but Kevin doesn't want to hide behind closed doors. Kevin tries to push Moose out of the closet, but Moose is too ashamed to be seen with Kevin in public. So, there's still hope for Joavin. This is where I hope for Joaquin to be there for Kevin, and for Kevin to realize that Joaquin really cares about him and to remember how happy he was when he and Joaquin were together, as well as to recall Fangs informing him that Joaquin talked about him all the time. Rob Raco apparently has been dropping hints at his character Joaquin's reappearance in Season 3, on Instagram and Twitter. He even hinted that Joaquin attends Riverdale High School in Season 3, plus he mentioned that Joaquin is in 12th grade. He's also been putting likes on a lot of the Season 3 stuff on Instagram and Twitter. Rob and Casey apparently have hinted at a future Joavin moment on Twitter recently.   |
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Post by Rikki on Aug 6, 2018 2:44:41 GMT -2
Some Kevin Keller fans seemed to believe that Kevin would be happy with Moose. They expressed that they wouldn't even mind if Kevin got together with Moose; they just want Kevin to be with someone, because they love Kevin so much and they want to see him happy.
But, from what I've heard so far about Kevin's storyline in Season 3.... Being in a relationship with Moose is actually not making Kevin any much happier, as Moose is still closeted and unwilling to be affectionate in public. This doesn't surprise me, since back in Season 1 Kevin had expressed that he wasn't interested in dating closeted guys, and he was so much happier when he was with Joaquin who is openly gay just like Kevin.
On top of that, I don't see how Kevin could trust Moose, after all those times Moose cheated on Midge and gave Kevin hope but then ditched him.
I always feel that Kevin deserves a sweet boyfriend who purely cares about him, is so proud to be seen with him by everyone, has absolutely no problem being romantic and affectionate with him in public, and does not have an excessive two-timing history. That's exactly how Joaquin was with Kevin, and I really hope for Joavin to rise again at some point in Season 3.
Joaquin may have his imperfections (everyone has their imperfections in fact), but still he has truly loved and cared for Kevin. And, he didn't really want to leave town, he was just forced to when things went to hell. At heart, he wanted to stay with Kevin.
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Post by Rikki on Aug 6, 2018 4:07:01 GMT -2
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Post by Rikki on Aug 6, 2018 4:12:32 GMT -2
Rob wearing a Pop's diner hat:  |
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Post by Rikki on Aug 21, 2018 8:37:02 GMT -2
I think we'll get to see Joaquin in Season 3. Besides those apparent clues at Joaquin's reappearance, the whole Riverdale fandom loves Rob Raco and his character Joaquin, and they all got overjoyed when Joaquin returned late in Season 2. Even Rob himself is so fond of his own character Joaquin.
I'm sure Rob wouldn't post all that content related to Joaquin, Joavin, and Riverdale in general, if he wouldn't be back. He did the same thing before he returned late in Season 2.
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